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|Tue Feb 5 2019 9:29PM | MsgID: 19790552|
I've got some sympathy with thepawnchefs frustrations.
I accept everything that Tao, bwzins and others have said but ..... if I have say 10 games and take my full time with all of them (which, of course, I am entitled to do) then I mildly cheese off up to 9 other people. Or maybe just one or two, depending on who is in the tournament. If I have 850 games I mildly cheese off hundreds. When does my right to enjoy myself on this site get offset by the hundreds of people who are mildly cheesed off? And if 850 is OK, how about 10,000?
And it is no argument to say, as somebody often does when this topic comes up, that thepawnchef can choose shorter time limits. If I get cheesed off at 10 days per move and move to 5 days a move I can face exactly the same problem - somebody taking their whole time (which, to repeat, they are entitled to do), dragging out the tournament. Each time limited game or tournament has its own flow or pace and laggards will slow things down. The fact that a 5 day tournament won't take as long is neither here or there.
The problem as presented by thepawnchef is the reason we have average time per move indicators. So we recognised, or K and others recognised, that there was an issue here and that people could look at these indicators before joining a tournament. Not foolproof (you might get latecomers or people might become laggards when they previously moved reasonably quickly etc etc) but it shows that the problem is a recognised one.
That's all I wanted to say. I am not suggesting any changes or limits on the number of games. It's just one of those things I guess. But I wouldn't argue that there isn't an issue, or have a go at thepawnchef for raising it. And of course it isn't life or death Tao - it's only a game of chess (to misquote a certain Mr Shankley).
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|Tue Feb 5 2019 7:50PM | MsgID: 19790551|
Absolutely agree. You choose the time limit you're happy to work within, and then having made that bed, lie in it.
I have only a half-dozen games going at any one time, and I like to give each one some thought. I aim to get on here at some time each day and make a move in each game; but sometimes life gets in the way and I go two or three days without being able to make moves. Therefore I choose games with a five-day limit.
I was amazed to see that there are players here who have three hundred or more games on the go; they must be playing every game like blitz. It wouldn't suit me at all. However, that's their choice. Where's the problem?
The annoying thing, when I look at opponents' other games, is that they seem to be playing super-rapid against everyone else, making frequent blunders, but they all seem to stop and think carefully when they play me.
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|Mon Jan 28 2019 12:08PM | MsgID: 19790446|
I am very much of the same view.
Time limit is time limit. If you do not wish to 'potentially' wait X amount of days for someone to move then choose a limit you are happy to wait 'Max' for a reply.
Whether your opponent has 1 game or 1000 games it is at his/her discretion to use whatever available time they have to make a move.
The whole ethos of the site is supposedly to find 'best move' and play correspondence style chess. Whilst in reality this is not the case for 99% of the games played here, and yes, there are those who simply run the time down to the last second deliberately as a form of gamesmanship. You have to take account that there are many many varying degrees of both ability and ways people enjoy the site. It is completely wrong to even consider moaning about an opponent who is playing within the rules and spirit of what the site tells you it is for.
Imagine this scenario. It is unimportant but hopefully illustrates the point. You have someone either new or not that great at OTB chess. They are using the maximum time to improve. Research, books, study etc. They maybe even enjoy that side of it as much as the game itself.
I have an opponent who plays 10 days per move that in 11 years has never won a game against me yet moves the 11th hour of the last day every game. The results make it clear he is obviously not cheating, but re generally responds with a decent move. I have no idea if the guy does it deliberately and do not care as after 11 years if that's his sad pleasure in life I would actually feel sorry for the guy. But I prefer to think and genuinely assume he is just someone trying to be a better player. For all I know he could be working long shifts in Antarctica and get internet connection every now and again! Either way I agreed at outset to give him 10 days to move.
Final point as a fun player I can say this. A hell of a lot of good chess players take it way too seriously. Its a game at the end of the day. Not life or death.