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Earl of Norfolk

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Sat Apr 21 2012 2:39PM | MsgID: 15384087


Actually, I think I have faced it a few times but thought that it was just some variation of the Pric with which I wasn't familiar.



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Sat Apr 21 2012 12:47PM | edited: 12:48:19 | MsgID: 15383819


Originally posted by: "Earl of Norfolk"
I'm not up on current openings. What exactly is the Black Lion?





The Black Lion appears to be a system for Black which tries to achieve the same setups against any White openings. It is a kind of Old Indian with a delayed ...e5, the positions may resemble a Pirc or Philidor in some cases.

[[1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 Nbd7]]

A few years ago, a couple of Dutch amateurs wrote a book about it. Here is a review:
http://www.chessvibes.com/reviews/review-the-black-lion/website





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I'm not up on current openings. What exactly is the Black Lion?



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will do



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play me -i will sacrifice pcs & still expect to win___new on site__have drawed against 2574 rating in 13 moves_----would love to learn from u____masterblaster5150



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Sat Sep 12 2009 5:54PM | MsgID: 11978475


Fischer loved the Kings Indian Defence so I am sure thats exactly what he was looking for. Incidentally, both GM Bronstein and GM Petrosian have won some beautiful games on the black side of the Old Indian Defense.



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Originally posted by: "armstrong789"
Please consider this: Fischer once said "before you can play for a win you must first equalize"




Hmmm, I always feel that equalizing is a step backwards as Black, I like a dynamic, unbalanced position. Some games I have won though I never managed to equalize. Perhaps Fischer was looking at equal opportunities for both sides, not a sterile position.



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What you say is exactly the case in the dynamic Kings Indian Defence. Black must take quite some time to equalize, however in return, the position remains unbalanced and filled with both strategic and tactical possibilities. I guess the bottom line is whether or not you feel comfortable with a specific opening that really counts.Also psychological factors may kick in, perhaps your opponent dislikes semi open games and prefers closed positions.



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Well, also keep in mind that you can't beat opening systems where the development moves are nearly automatic for the first 12 moves. It was rumoured that Pal Benko used to like his 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 because he was able to quickly rattle off the next 15 some moves without any real need for thought. So what if it takes you some extra moves to equalize as long as the position is solid and you have chances for counterplay.



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Please consider this: Fischer once said "before you can play for a win you must first equalize" Any opening that takes at least 15 or more moves to equalize should be considered last when if you consider the fact that in the Nimzo Indian Defence black is already equal on the 3rd move against all but 2 of whites 4th moves.(I am speaking of primarily 1.d4 systems, since against 1.e4 that may be a different ball game entirely)



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