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An excellent idea.I forgot to mention the Chess Informant series which is very good also.I love the Starting Out series, edited by Kasparov and have most of them, but the New in Chess Yearbooks are by far the most informative and up to date I know of.In Yearbook 116 there is even a chapter on how to deal with symmetrical positions showing how a young Chinese genius named Wei Yi wins in such situations.His combinations are reminiscent of young Fischer and I predict he will be possibly the next world champion.



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Please don't take my comments as disdain for the printed editions. I am very much a book person. I turn 67 next month; my old eyes don't do well with the tiny characters on tablet and smartphone screens. I am also skeptical about the value of the masses of information being distributed. Quantity is no substitute for quality when it comes to analysis and information.

I was simply pointing out that the Internet is wreaking havoc on the publishing industry. MCO may fall victim to these economics, but if new editions of MCO and/or NCO are printed, I am definitely buying. (In fact, I am thinking of trotting out some old analysis from 'Bilguer's Handbuch' to see how the digital warriors cope.)



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Originally posted by: "kingscrusher"
What do people think of the following book :

Modern Chess Openings, 15th Edition (Chess)

Feedback welcome from all

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It was practically my sole reference when I joined the site, as is apparent by the many times I quoted it in my annotated games. So far as a one-volume reference book is concerned, I still think it's the best. There are other more up-to-date sources, but they are of use mostly to grandmasters. MCO is still the Bible so far as the average player is concerned.



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I disagree with your disdain for printed editions since every 3 months the New in Chess Yearbook has all the very latest trends and opening novelties often deeply explained by top Grandmasters and International Masters.For example Yearbook 116 has a fascinating way unearthed by Anand's second GM Ganguly, from a game between Showalter and Pillsbury as an excellent way to sacrifice a pawn against the Berlin Defence of the Ruy Lopez. After 5...Nd6 6.Ba4!? with excellent chances for obtaining a strong initiative and plenty of fresh new analysis.



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Originally posted by: "armstrong789"
The book I wished was in hardback was not MCO 15 but NCO (Nunns Chess Openings).Please take another look at what I said about NCO and not MCO. MCO 15 means Modern Chess Openings 15th edition (a good book but no match against NCO since only one man had the massive task of putting it all together) where as NCO is a different ball game since 4 leading Grandmasters put it together with lots of original ideas and NO typos!.Good luck!




MCO will be due for a new edition soon, but MCO-15 may turn out to be the last in the series. The widespread use of laptops and tablets with ChessBase, Chess Assistant, and online databases may make print editions unprofitable for the publisher.

The purpose of this posting is to note that just as John Nunn headed a team of GMs and IMs to create NCO, Nick De Firmian had a team of GMs and IMs working with him on MCO. As noted in other posts, typos are an annoying fact of life in chess books; BCO, MCO and NCO are no exceptions. Considering the massive amount of data in these tomes, it is surprising that there aren't more. It is easy to be critical, but chess players owe an enormous debt of gratitude to these teams for the willingness to devote so much time and energy to producing these references.



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I wouldn't say that MCO 15 has no typos. I found one the very first time I opened the book.

On page 403
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7
column 25 continues 5.Bg5 (I think move 4 should be 4.Nf3)

A post on the internet mentioned this one on page 151
1. e4 e5 2. d4 cxd4 is not a legal move.




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I discarded MCO-14 when the new edition came out. Nick de Firmian and his team have covered many new variations which emerged in the first decade of this century. It is my main reference, but also check Nunn's Chess Openings and on-line databases. (One must be careful with the online databases because they contain so many games from lower rated players. Many popular lines are avoided by GMs because they result in lost or difficult positions if the opponent knows his theory.) It would be interesting to find an old Bilguer's Handbuch now that Italian games are being widely played again. Much 1.e4 e5 theory has been edited out to make room for all the Sicilian and Queen's pawn lines.

I was recently shocked to discover that a widely played line is not included in MCO-15. I wish I could remember which opening, probably in Slav, which is my primary defense to 1.d4. My experience is that one rarely gets an unplayable position while following MCO-15, and the notes can warn one off variations that are disadvantageous.

What I continue to discover is that my results are best when I play openings consistent with my chess strengths and that I really have had to learn to think during games. We all have a style that is natural to us. It may not be what the top players are using.



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I also have this book, and I think it's great. It was the first chess book I ever bought, and it's done me right so far.



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The book I wished was in hardback was not MCO 15 but NCO (Nunns Chess Openings).Please take another look at what I said about NCO and not MCO. MCO 15 means Modern Chess Openings 15th edition (a good book but no match against NCO since only one man had the massive task of putting it all together) where as NCO is a different ball game since 4 leading Grandmasters put it together with lots of original ideas and NO typos!.Good luck!



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Thank you for the information. I have now ordered MCO15 though, like you, I am sorry it is not published in hardback. My MCO 14 "parted" at the French and, with the help of my then small grandchildren, has not been seen since. Anyone who wants to play me against the French are in for a free ride and a faulty memory. From memory there were major typos in MCO 14 in Alekhine and Evans.



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