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TamCoblyn

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Mon Oct 2 2017 5:35AM | MsgID: 19777107


Oct 29, 1969: Message sent from computer to computer in different locations. Jan 1, 1983: ARPANET adopted the standard TCP/IP protocol. March 1989: Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. April 22, 1993: Mosaic became the first web browser.







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Mon Sep 25 2017 9:35PM | MsgID: 19776971


Why do we not set up a postal tourney?
Combine site origin with tech and introduce a few 'handshake' rules of our own.
1) Agree 'minimum' time reply? based on international postage etc
2) Agree time + if over post late etc authentic
3) Agree research Its 1980ish??? so we have no internet

Anyone fancy it?







TamCoblyn

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Mon Sep 25 2017 6:52AM | edited: 7:38:09 | MsgID: 19776958


My association with postal was with The Open University Chess Club, and the British Correspondence Chess Federation (both I believe have folded now). The Welsh Correspondence Chess Federation and the British Correspondence Chess Association over the 30 years.

Levelling up the balance since names are in use.

Apparently was still playing under the last names banner until the spring (and helps in explaining why I have a ICCF rating) of this year must be playing too many games.








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Mon Sep 25 2017 4:36AM | edited: 4:49:56 | MsgID: 19776957


[Quote from: "TamCoblyn"]
[Quote from: "bwzins64"]
With postal chess, I didn't have nearly as many games going on at one time that I do now.



My friend, you currently have only 5 games how much less? I consistently played much more than that in my postal games. The numbers seem to not provide much clarity in observing playing styles of a large number of opponents to provide a clear picture.

Sure some of the players were at the pinnacle of the game others were not and played merely for fun as we find here.

I agree with much of what you say, however.



Only having 5 games currently is not the norm for me. I've been in several 15 person All-Play-Alls, while also playing in other tournaments. In postal, I played in the 'Golden Knights' few times; and the 'Wisconsin Postal Championship' once. And none starting at the same time. So I played maybe 10 to 12 games at the same time, tops. It's not even close. (Just needed to set the record straight.)

P.S. I like your new avatar!







TamCoblyn

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Sun Sep 24 2017 6:36PM | edited: 6:57:04 | MsgID: 19776950


Originally posted by: "bwzins64"

With postal chess, I didn't have nearly as many games going on at one time that I do now.




My friend, you currently have only 5 games how much less? I consistently played much more than that in my postal games. The numbers seem to not provide much clarity in observing playing styles of a large number of opponents to provide a clear picture.

Sure some of the players were at the pinnacle of the game others were not and played merely for fun as we find here.

I agree with much of what you say, however.







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Sun Sep 24 2017 12:32PM | MsgID: 19776940


Originally posted by: "TamCoblyn"
Not really sure if patience " per move wise" in postal chess is at all any different with this electronic method.

Do opponents contemplate each move over several days? Not really sure that this occurs any differently in either media with most opponents. In the way that we are each unique individuals we play accordingly.

Just that due to changes in the way mail has altered over the past 30+ years players have sought out correspondingly.

I will be away from Chessworld from tomorrow for several days does this mean during the time I will be concentrating on each move over my absence? I will leave you to decide.




With postal chess, I didn't have nearly as many games going on at one time that I do now. One of the simple reasons, and something you touched upon earlier, was that I had to pay for postage; move cards; and other expenses. Other than a membership fee, I have no increase of additional expenses for each game that I choose to play here on ChessWorld. With the lower game load when playing postal chess, I (And I know there were many others.) did spend more of my luxury time analyzing my games, and also studying related material about the openings; pawn structures; typical middlegames; possible endgames; etc. That was one of the big draws to postal chess...learning. I do still research my games, but not nearly as deep as I did with my postal games. I'd also like to add that now we have computers to speed up game searches; position searches; analyzing; ect. Just recording the moves; and playing through them is a lot faster now. So, "Yes." I did contemplate my moves longer; and more deeply when playing postal chess. And, "Yes." I do believe that you needed more patience then. It's pretty well known that most new visitors to the site don't stick around too long. Probably put off by the "slow" style of play here.







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Sun Sep 24 2017 5:48AM | edited: 6:54:12 | MsgID: 19776938


Not really sure if patience " per move wise" in postal chess is at all any different with this electronic method.

Do opponents contemplate each move over several days? Not really sure that this occurs any differently in either media with most opponents. In the way that we are each unique individuals we play accordingly.

Just that due to changes in the way mail has altered over the past 30+ years players have sought out correspondingly.

I will be away from Chessworld from tomorrow for several days does this mean during the time I will be concentrating on each move over my absence? I will leave you to decide.







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[Quote from: "TamCoblyn"]
[Quote from: "Alkhemyst"]

With correspondence chess, it is good to have some degree of patience. I played USCF postal chess in the 1970's. It did take several days to get my opponents move via postcard.



With the thrill, excitement and at times frustration of receiving a single response through the post. Great days, but sadly not played often nowadays except by the stalwarts of the postal chess fraternity.

Postal price hikes brought the death knell to much of postal chess which had peak interest for me during the 1980's and right up to 2010, but sadly unaffordable now.



I wasn't promoting postal chess; I was just using it as an example of more patient play.







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Sat Sep 23 2017 6:47AM | edited: 8:20:49 | MsgID: 19776923


Originally posted by: "Alkhemyst"


With correspondence chess, it is good to have some degree of patience. I played USCF postal chess in the 1970's. It did take several days to get my opponents move via postcard.




With the thrill, excitement and at times frustration of receiving a single response through the post. Great days, but sadly not played often nowadays except by the stalwarts of the postal chess fraternity.

Postal price hikes brought the death knell to much of postal chess which had peak interest for me during the 1980's and right up to 2010, but sadly unaffordable now.







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Fri Sep 22 2017 10:40PM | MsgID: 19776918


It might be a little bit disconcerting to some that there are "fast movers." As Reyn noted, there is nothing which says you have to respond with the same speed. As long as you don't time out, you're safe.

Fast moves might certainly be indicative of how many games played at the same time. On the other hand, some may just not care to play slowly.

Some players play a hundred or more games at once, maybe hundreds. They just like a lot of games. They could be a quick study positionally and tactically. They have to make a lot of very fast moves by necessity. Perhaps they like the pressure of having to respond to a lot of games and maybe there is some excitement in this. I captain teams where there are members that have over 100, 200 or 300 friendly rated games going simultaneously. This is an observation, not a criticism. The amount of games played at the same time is not necessarily a reflection on ones playing level or skill. However, I know myself that I prefer to take my time and analyze a position until I'm satisfied that I'm making the best move -- or at least a sound, decent move. Even then, I error, I make mistakes; I make losing moves. Sometimes I will set up a board (not a board on the screen) and move pieces around and analyze. This takes time. Doing this, I could not be playing 100 games at the same time. I don't think I've ever played more than 50 games simultaneously. I learn more from playing slower, thinking about it -- but within the time limits -- rather than playing hurry-up chess. To each his own. I never was good at Blitz Chess. I might have only five games going, or I might have 40. Some members play a lot of games so they always have a game to reply to.

With correspondence chess, it is good to have some degree of patience. I played USCF postal chess in the 1970's. It did take several days to get my opponents move via postcard.








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