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  Often fallen into caro-kann trap which even Kasparov fell into !

Stiessel

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Sat Jan 4 2003 9:55AM | edited: 9:55:59 | MsgID: 59706


Take a look on The Gambit Cartel by Tim McGrew on chesscafe.com. He's written a two part article about this and seems to have a good idea on how to handle 4...e5.

I can't connect to chesscafe right now for some reason, so I can't give you the exact addresses, but they should be easy to find in the chesscafe archives. I think the articles were called the Milner-Barry Gambit something.

cheers, Stiessel



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Sun Dec 29 2002 12:52PM | MsgID: 57905


Hi there

I've had very good results with this gambit in blitz chess also.

My big concern (and source of greatest losses) is when black doesnt accept the gambit and instead does a gambit in return with e5!?

Best wishes

K




Stiessel

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Sun Dec 29 2002 12:46PM | edited: 12:47:22 | MsgID: 57904


or 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.f3!? should give the Black positional player something to think about.

I've just started to play this opening, still experementing with it. In blitz I score amazingly well with it. Is this gambit refuted in some way? As I've understood it isn't very common.

/Stiessel



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Sat Dec 28 2002 7:04PM | MsgID: 57810


Dear K,
In order to give Caro-Kann players tactical difficulty,it is better to play
1.e4,c6 2.d4,d5 3.e5! However, research will be necessary.
Best wishes, sassafrass



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Sat Dec 28 2002 1:01PM | edited: 1:06:40 | MsgID: 57740


Hi all

I haven't got anything against the Caro-kann. It is generally a rock solid opening which is highly recommended.

But here is a frequently occuring trap which occurs after the following moves:-

[[
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Bd3 Ngf6 6.Ng5 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6
]]

Some high profile victims include Kasparov and Huebner:-

[Event "Biel"]
[Site "Biel"]
[Date "1987.07.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Chandler,Murray G"]
[Black "Huebner,Robert"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B17"]

[[
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Ng5 Ngf6 6.Bd3 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6 Qe7
9.0-0 fxe6 10.Bg6+ Kd8 11.Bf4 Nd5 12.Bg3 Qb4 13.Re1 Be7 14.Qe2 Bf6 15.c4 Ne7 16.a3 Qb3
17.Bd3 Nf5 18.Bxf5 exf5 19.Qe6 Qb6 20.c5 Nxc5 21.Qd6+ Nd7 22.Ne5 Bxe5 23.Rxe5 Re8 24.Rxe8+ Kxe8
25.Re1+ Ne5 26.Rxe5+ Kf7 27.Re7+ 1-0
]]

[Event "New York man vs machine"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "1997.05.03"]
[Round "6"]
[White "Comp Deep Blue"]
[Black "Kasparov,Garry"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "B17"]

[[
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Ng5 Ngf6 6.Bd3 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6 Qe7
9.0-0 fxe6 10.Bg6+ Kd8 11.Bf4 b5 12.a4 Bb7 13.Re1 Nd5 14.Bg3 Kc8 15.axb5 cxb5 16.Qd3 Bc6
17.Bf5 exf5 18.Rxe7 Bxe7 19.c4
]]

1-0

I put the two question marks because the ChessLive database shows some wins for black (Overall score from 127 games: White wins: 82 Draws: 16 Black wins: 29)

Our resident GM Patrick Wolff for example didn't quite finish off his opponent in 1992:-

[Event "New York Reshevsky"]
[Site "New York"]
[Date "1992.07.??"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Wolff,Patrick G"]
[Black "Granda Zuniga,Julio E"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Eco "B17"]

[[
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Ng5 Ngf6 6.Bd3 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6 fxe6
9.Bg6+ Ke7 10.0-0 Qc7 11.Re1 Kd8 12.c4 Bb4 13.Re2 Nf8 14.Ne5 Nxg6 15.Nxg6 Re8 16.c5 Ba5
17.Qa4 Nd5 18.Ne5 Bd7 19.a3 b5 20.Qc2 Qb8 21.Qh7 Bc7 22.Qxg7 Bxe5 23.Rxe5 Kc8 24.Bxh6 Qc7
25.Bd2 Kb7 26.a4 a5 27.Qg3 Rg8 28.Qd3 b4 29.Rae1 Rh8 30.Bg5 Rag8 31.h4 Qc8 32.g3 Qf8
33.f4 Qf7 34.Kf2 Ne7 35.Bxe7 Qxe7 36.Qf3 Qf6 37.R1e3 Rg7 38.Rd3 Be8 39.Rde3 Bf7 40.f5 Bh5
41.Rxe6 Qxe6 42.Rxe6 Bxf3 43.Kxf3 Rhg8 44.f6 Rxg3+ 45.Kf4 R8g4+ 46.Ke5 Rxh4 47.Re7+ Ka6 48.f7 Rf3
49.Re6 Rxf7 50.Rxc6+ Ka7 51.d5 Re7+ 52.Kd6 Reh7
]]

0-1

But also, I seem to recall a game of top British GM Adams who fell into this trap against GM Murray Chandler at the Lloyds bank masters, but Chandler still lost.

Feedback welcome on this trap!

Best wishes
K

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