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  Octopus Knight (KC video) question.




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The Octopus Knight game is one of my favourites from Kasparov







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Yup, all true. Although hindsight's always a help, I just wonder if giving the pawn back may have been better than leaving the Knights out of the game.
Perhaps, as I think the commentary said, white's mistake was to move his white Bishop from protecting the d3 square; Karpov must surely have thought about the threat of Nd3 (hindsight again).
I'm glad he did though, would've deprived us of that game otherwise...







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Thu Jul 22 2010 10:47PM | edited: 10:49:37 | MsgID: 13338114


It looks to me like 1.Nc2 drops the d-pawn after the exchange 1...Nxc2 white re-captures 2.Qxc2 and black is attacking the d-pawn with both queen and knight, white is only defending with the knight. 2...Nxd5








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Originally posted by: "Royal_Python"
KC, I watch (listen to) your analysis of it every few months, it's like a Dali painting; puts one in a good mood...
Any opinions on my question (the "bad Knight" on a3 to c2, trying to threaten the N on b4 before it can go to d3)?




In this position:








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Nc2 would allow either Nb4xd5 or Nfxd5

which maybe Black equalises. Possibly Nfxd5 is slightly more aggressive.







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Wed Jul 21 2010 9:16PM | MsgID: 13334211


KC, I watch (listen to) your analysis of it every few months, it's like a Dali painting; puts one in a good mood...
Any opinions on my question (the "bad Knight" on a3 to c2, trying to threaten the N on b4 before it can go to d3)?







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Wed Jul 21 2010 8:58PM | MsgID: 13334122


Originally posted by: "Royal_Python"
Hi all,
I'd like to recommend an "old" KC video: "Octopus Knight". It's Karpov v Kasparov, 1985, somewhere or other. It's the most inspirational game of chess I've ever had explained to me. I regularly show it to folk that are even more lacking in chess knowledge than me (abject beginners) whilst trying to addict them to the game, and it causes gasps every time.
Would a good player be able to tell me why Karpov could not have moved his bad Knight on a3 to c2 (after Kasp had played Nb4, hence eyeing d3 with it). This would be before Kasp had protected d3 with his white Bishop (Bf5)?
I'm sure there's an obvious answer, but I'm too dim...
Ps. The finish to the game is as pretty as the Knight that won it.
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It is one of my favourite all time games:









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Wed Jul 21 2010 8:55PM | MsgID: 13334111


Hi all,
I'd like to recommend an "old" KC video: "Octopus Knight". It's Karpov v Kasparov, 1985, somewhere or other. It's the most inspirational game of chess I've ever had explained to me. I regularly show it to folk that are even more lacking in chess knowledge than me (abject beginners) whilst trying to addict them to the game, and it causes gasps every time.
Would a good player be able to tell me why Karpov could not have moved his bad Knight on a3 to c2 (after Kasp had played Nb4, hence eyeing d3 with it). This would be before Kasp had protected d3 with his white Bishop (Bf5)?
I'm sure there's an obvious answer, but I'm too dim...
Ps. The finish to the game is as pretty as the Knight that won it.
Utube Kingscrusher's channel...
Apologies for not knowing how to create a link, but computers continue to baffle me