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  Sicilian 2.Bc4

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Wed Jun 22 2011 9:34AM | MsgID: 14472373


Originally posted by: "brathbone"
I seem to be encountering this move quite a lot. Has this become fashionable, or just a developing move for some players?



I doubt it's fashionable, because I think even the ropey old IMs who make their dough peddling dodgy opening ideas to patzers would baulk at such an obviously inferior move. Then again, maybe Nakamura plays it or something.



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An old fellow club payer of mine(now sadly retired from active play) used to respond to the Sicilian with this every time. It was mainly a way of getting out of 'book' for him. He would follow up with 3. Qe2 to inhibit the otherwise sound idea of 2...e6 & 3...d5. Because he was a good tactician he used to get cheap but scary attacks going dwon the central files. I seem to remember he usually played c3 at some stage to allow a bishop retreat and frequently got his Bc1 stuck at home.



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Mon May 2 2011 6:29PM | MsgID: 14316931


According to the book "The Chess Games of Adolf Anderssen" by Ron Burnett, Anderssen played this line 5 times, winning 3 and drawing 2 games.Some idea variations could go like this; 2...e6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d3 a6 5.a4 Nf6 6.Bd2 d5 7.Ba2 When black plays an early ...a6 white always answers with a4 and then after d3 places his dark squared Queens Bishop on d2 so that after black frees his game with ...d5 white can retreat his light squared Kings Bishop to a2 without having to undergo an early exchange of Queens.When black does NOT play ...a6 whites dark squared Bishop goes to f4 so that after ...d5 white can play Nb5 for example; 2...e6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d3 Nf6 5.Bf4 d5 6.Nb5 bc4 7.Nc7.When black fianchettoes his dark squared Kings Bishop, white strives for a Big Clamp set up with d3, Nge2, 0-0 and f4.



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Mon May 2 2011 3:31PM | MsgID: 14316515


There is a game with the "Bowlder Attack" a favorite of attacking maestro Adolf Anerssen.One interesting game begins like this: 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 e6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.d3 d6 5.Nge2 Nf6 6.0-0 Be7 7.Ng3 a6 8.a4 0-0 9.Bd2 d5 10.Ba2 and white went on to win.see Anderssen Adolf/De Heer Klaas, Amsterdam, Netherlands 1861



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Mon May 2 2011 1:36PM | MsgID: 14316216


[Quote from: "Theseus"]
[Quote from: "brathbone"]I seem to be encountering this move quite a lot. Has this become fashionable, or just a developing move for some players?



2.Bc4 is a move I once considered in the Sicilian but couldn't justify - my thoughts were that it may take Black out of theory. However, after e6 and d5 from Black (as the Earl suggests) the bishop is quickly displaced and one needs to find somewhere else to put it. There's some loss of tempo and Black builds in the centre.
I believe there is some ancient theory around (it's not a new move) that may come under the title 'Bowlder Attack'.
I can't actually answer your question - it may be fashionable among those seeking anti-Sicilian systems but I think it's been tried before and found wanting. Nevertheless, I'll be interested in what you find out; I may revisit this one day.



Thanks for the information. I was just curious about the popularity of this opening.



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Mon May 2 2011 6:25AM | edited: 6:26:08 | MsgID: 14315342


Originally posted by: "brathbone"
I seem to be encountering this move quite a lot. Has this become fashionable, or just a developing move for some players?




2.Bc4 is a move I once considered in the Sicilian but couldn't justify - my thoughts were that it may take Black out of theory. However, after e6 and d5 from Black (as the Earl suggests) the bishop is quickly displaced and one needs to find somewhere else to put it. There's some loss of tempo and Black builds in the centre.
I believe there is some ancient theory around (it's not a new move) that may come under the title 'Bowlder Attack'.
I can't actually answer your question - it may be fashionable among those seeking anti-Sicilian systems but I think it's been tried before and found wanting. Nevertheless, I'll be interested in what you find out; I may revisit this one day.



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Mon May 2 2011 1:19AM | MsgID: 14315002


2...e6 followed by ...d5 should give Black a good game.



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Mon May 2 2011 12:20AM | MsgID: 14314910


For these kind of questions, your best bet is to look at a book on how to open a chess game.

A quick search on Google reveals an answer to your specific question in "Secrets of the Russian Chess Masters" by Lev Alburt and Larry Parr.

Enter "1 e4 c5 2 Bc4" into Google and click the books option. You will find your answer.








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Sun May 1 2011 7:50PM | MsgID: 14314217


I seem to be encountering this move quite a lot. Has this become fashionable, or just a developing move for some players?