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  The Moment of Zuke by David Rudel

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Sun Jun 26 2011 9:46AM | MsgID: 14484085


I have played with the Zuke over a number of years and it is not bad for a 'system'. However, suggest you have a look at a book which contains the main Colle line. This is very simple and is based on the 'coiled spring' approach of Kotov. It can be played virtually against any Black line.

Hope this helps.

Norm



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BTW, who the hell cares if Rudel is a "well know player" if his books are helpful to some people, like me, who do not get a lot out of books written by masters for masters? Pardon my French.



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I'm a patzer with a low rating, having started playing when I was 46 less than 4 years ago. I have lost far more club games than I have won. However, I am on my second reading of Zuke 'Em. I have won or drawn my last 5 club games in a row, including a draw against a player more than 550 USCF points higher than me. Tonight, I beat someone more than 250 USCF points higher than me. I have found a white opening that is well-suited to me in the Colle-Zukertort as taught by Rudel. Sure, masters may find much to criticize in Rudel's books, but they are great for someone like me near the bottom of ratings list. Your mileage will, of course, vary.

Plus, I enjoy smashing the hell out of my opponent's position, and this is a great opening for that ... at least in the clubs where I play.



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[Quote from: "RookPawn"]What I like about Rudel's most is the almost to simplistic way he presents the various themes and ideas he presents. They are easy to go through by most club level players and an understanding of the openings will set well.


Agreed. Compared to something Gary Lane's, The Ultimate Colle, Zuke 'Em is much easier to get to grips with. I also like how Rudel tackles the early Bishop deviations much better than Lane did.
[Quote from: "RookPawn"]Palliser's books are more comprehensive and probably much better for the the more advanced players. Going much deeper into positions. ("Starting out the Colle" and "Starting out D-Pawn Attacks"


I noticed that too. But I used Palliser's suggestion on page 16 of "Starting out the Colle", and just played through the main lines and the illustrative games to get a feel for the positions and general themes before looking at the analysis.

I've only taken a quick look though D-Pawn Attacks, but I am looking forward to what Pallisar has to say on the Barry and 150. They look like good options when you're forced to bail of the Colle.



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Tue Nov 3 2009 1:06AM | MsgID: 12227862


I find both of Rudel's books and Both of Palliser's to be quite good. What I like about Rudel's most is the almost to simplistic way he presents the various themes and ideas he presents. They are easy to go through by most club level players and an understanding of the openings will set well.

Palliser's books are more comprehensive and probably much better for the the more advanced players. Going much deeper into positions. ("Starting out the Colle" and "Starting out D-Pawn Attacks"



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Mon Nov 2 2009 8:21AM | MsgID: 12223298


Originally posted by: "Moosester"
I do not play the Colle-Zukertort but believe that any book should be judged on its own merit. If it helps you then it is good for you, if it doesn't help you then you shouldn't be using it.

Take the experts with a grain of salt.



Well said!



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I too am on chesspub.com, and find what you report to be quite accurate. I do not play the Colle-Zukertort but believe that any book should be judged on its own merit. If it helps you then it is good for you, if it doesn't help you then you shouldn't be using it.

Take the experts with a grain of salt. In any genre I have loved some poorly reviewed books and disliked those which received accolades, it's often a personal and subjective thing. Much like movies, music and people, some we dislike, some we can't live without.



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Sun Nov 1 2009 7:25AM | MsgID: 12217888


There has been a long discussion on Chesspub.com about this book in the thread:
https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1188131138

At Chesspub.com are many very strong players with ratings well over 2000, and many of them don't like the book. Some call it rubbish.

The main criticism is that Rudel is not a well known player and have not a official rating. Somebody wrote in the thread that Rudel was only a 1300-player when the book was written and such a weak player can't write a (good) book about openings. Even if Rudels rating now is higher then 1300.

I self have bought the book, because I'm want to learn the CZ-variation av Colle. I have not red so much yet, but I looks good. I also think the book is aimed for players under 2000. Experts should look elsewhere.




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Fri Oct 23 2009 9:18PM | MsgID: 12175907


Got Zuke 'Em & The Moment of Zuke today. Just started reading, but so far so good.

I've heard that Palliser's, "Staring out: d-pawn attacks", is a good companion to Rudel's books. Can anyone confirm this? I'm currently enjoying his book on the Colle-Koltanowski.



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By the Author of Zuke 'Em, a book on the Colle Zukertort variation. This companion book gives several exercises in critical and pivotal position in the Colle. It is a large book, easy to read diagrams and can be used by both Colle-Zukertort and Colle-Kowlanowsky players. I've just started going through the book but it seems a great addition to the Colle library. There is a bonus track called the Phoenix attack by the author. This line has been played quite bit in at two thematic tournaments hear at Chess world!